Title: Ranking System
Description: what do we do
CARRIE! - May 25, 2010 06:06 PM (GMT)
Okay so the Ranking System has been through the ringer a few times and is looking a bit mangled. I want to know what direction everyone would like to go. Additional comments beyond just a vote would be LOVELY!
Now I know you can see the choices at the top but here is a basic rundown of each choice.
Activity: This is pretty what is currently in place, with possibly a few more addition ranks. Pretty much you rank up based on your activity. Those with less than 50 posts are the Mob 50+ become something new like Crooners then those who hit 100+ are Vocalists then when you reach higher up like maybe 500+ your and Activist. ect Potential Problems: It may cause people not to submit as much resources. Particularly with post count going up via games (though that can be removed is we go this way)
Resources: This would be like the old system where people post up their resource files and staff judge on number of resources and quality of resources and you are ranked according to those two factors. Potential Problems:This judging feature can be VERY subjective. There are no set guides and rules for what makes a good resource and a pour resource it is ALL personal opinion.
Graphics: This would bring a bit of a stronger focus to our graphics section which is rather sad at the moment. Seeing as there are very few and far between good graphics sites there is potential for growth in that area. Ranking would be based on graphic skills, which have set rules of what makes good and bad graphics. Potential Problems: This might detract from the focus of the side being an RPG forum, though we could focus on forum and RP graphics.
Combination: This would be having more than one ranking system. It would be a bit like what RCR has but less confusing. Where you chose one type of ranking and that is it. You choose to be ranked by activity or by Resource/Graphic or what ever. Potential Problems: Chiefly it would be confusion and people wanting to jump from ranking system to ranking system. Also this does create more work for staff which is already a bit thin.
None: No ranking system at all. I think potential problems are obvious here.
Other: Votes ONLY count if you state your suggestion here if there seems to be positive sway it will be discussed and considered.
Opinions and ideas beyond just a simple vote are MORE than welcome! Please have votes in by the end of the month! I know it's short notice but I want to get things going ASAP.
Malone - May 25, 2010 06:16 PM (GMT)
I'd just like to point out that if we go with the activity ranking that there is a way to make it so that the post count doesn't increase if a person posts in the games forum. There's a thing in the forum settings that says "Posts in this forum increase member's cumulative post count?" Just select no for it. =]
Abby - May 25, 2010 06:32 PM (GMT)
Okay, i've been quiet for a long time because I thought, if my opinion on what made this site great, what made me join in the first place, went unnoticed, then what business do I have to have an opinion in the first place.
I personally, would like to see those things that made RPG-U stand apart from the rest, return. I liked the ranking system, and regardless of how the ranking system comes into play, I actually believe that what was used previously was actually the best method. But instead of having STAFF vote to either promote or not, just give the promotions based on the number of resources posted.
Carrie, you and I have gone to head to head on this, and I really do respect your opinion, HOWEVER, I don't see how a resource board should be anything BUT what it is. If you want to be labeled a resource board, then by god, promote that! use that as what drives this site. If you want to be known as a grapic AND resource forum, then promote those areas!
I love RPG-U, rather, I loved what RPG-U WAS. I dislike this RPG-U ALOT, hence why I am not very active anymore. I voted for a combination because I think all the areas can be used constructively and for the greater good of the community.
Give your members what they want to see, what they desire, what they feel makes this forum great. I'm not saying bend over backwards, but right now, this.. what we have, is not what made RPG-U great.
JumpinJava - May 25, 2010 09:57 PM (GMT)
I voted for combination too but for some different reasons from Abby's. I think the ranking system should be based on Activity, Resources and Graphics all at the same time because to me those are what will make RPGU. If there aren't active members then nothing is going to get posted. But also having members choose what they want to be ranked on is a good idea too. The site might just end up with five million different member groups that way though.
Ectw101 - May 25, 2010 10:23 PM (GMT)
Well, I just got this idea for Combination, but it's also kinda Other by being different from the description, so I'm not sure how to vote… nevertheless, here's my idea.
You could have a Combination of Resources, Graphics, Activity, and maybe Writing. How it would work is that each member, as it was before, gets a file in which all of the resources, graphics, and writing that they have posted on RPGU are recorded. Then, for each resource, they are awarded a certain number of points. Same for Graphics, same for Writing. Points would also be given for Posting. It would work like…
-Posts: 1 point per post
-Resources: 5 Points per original Resource
-Graphics: 7 Points per original Graphic
and so on, however you wish to divide it! Then, to move up a rank, members simply need to earn enough points. i.e. 50- Points = Mob. 50+ Points = *Insert name*. 100+ Points… and so on.
This idea allows members to have free reign as to what they do to move up ranks and it allows the staff to raise the value of certain categories, hence promoting more activity in that form! :)
Abby - May 25, 2010 10:39 PM (GMT)
I actually LOVE the idea of the point based promotion system!
CARRIE! - May 26, 2010 03:03 AM (GMT)
This point based system is interesting and would need a lot of planning an work put into it to achieve it. It sounds a bit like the Bank which was a fail to a certain degree. Please don't take my next sentence as my saying that I am the end all on things, but I'll have to think on the points idea some.
ariesness - July 7, 2010 05:50 AM (GMT)
To bring this back up for discussion, how does everyone feel about the points-based ranking system? I, also, am intrigued by it, but I really want to hear more input from the community.
Also, for those who might be curious, this was the most recent version of our old ranking system.
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The various ranks here are not designed to make anyone feel inferior in any way. It is all about fun, and RPGU loves all its members! But at the same time, it can be nice to have a goal to work towards. Ranks are completely optional, and there are other options out there if you're not into this system. Please visit our Graphic Galleries to view the requirements of being ranked as a graphic artist, or the Inkwell for our author group requirements. XD
Update 04.09.10 There are several new changes that have been made to the way we determine which rank you deserve. Please note, we do not determine ranks based on style. Style differs from person to person, group to group, and we want to encourage a wide variety of styles among our resources and members. Instead our ranking is based on various types of resources and other aspects of community involvment.
There are eight types of categories involved in choosing ranks. To reach the top, you'll need to be proficient in all of them. XD They are:
- Graphics* - Skins* - Site builders^ - Requests^ - Guides* (includes all tutorials, documentations, and codes submitted to the Coder's Directory) - Support^ (includes coding help and critiques) - Admin Templates* (rule sheets, canon lists, site/sub plots, face claims, announcement templates, and anything else an admin might use) - Character Templates* (plotpages, thread templates, journals/blogs, instant messaging & phone codes, and anything else a member of an RPG site might use for the character)
* denotes categories commonly referred to as resources throughout this section. ^ denotes categories referred to as community involvement in this section.
Below is the description of each rank level and the requirements for each. Please use this as a reference for working your way up through the ranks. If you have any questions, please post them here.
unsorted This is where everyone posts their Files. You must have at least item in your show-off file in order to post. You'll be sorted into another forum from there come promotion time, if we feel like you meet the rank requirements. XD
No Requirements.
Nonconformist The Nonconformists have posted a few resources here at RPGU, and are on their way to get really good at making some of our offered resources.
Requirements: At least three posted items in their File.
Protester These friendly people are on the way to making a name for themself around the community. They've got a few more resources posted, and are beginning to give back to the community by filling requests and helping out other admins.
Requirements: At least 12 total items in their File. Eight must be resources of some kind, and the final four should be some combination of community involvement (aka filled requests, site builders, site critiques, and coding help).
Soapbox Ranter Soapbox ranters stand out from the community. Not just because they're super talented, but because they do their part to help less experienced members. They fill requests and write tutorials, on top of providing our members with some truly amazing resources.
Requirements: At least 25 total items in their File. 15 must be resources of some kind in at least three categories (skins, graphics, guides-includes code snippets-, admin templates, and character templates). The remaining 10 should be from at least two of the community involvement categories.
Heretic Heretics are almost like celebrities around here. They've made a name for themselves by being highly valuable in the community. They've provided quite a selection of resources for our members to use, as well as do their part to help others.
Requirements: At least 50 total items in their File. 30 must be resource of some kind in at least four of the five categories. In addition, the remaining 20 must come from at least three of the four community involvement categories.
Revolutionary It is not easy becoming a Revolutionary, and if you look back at the earlier ranks, you'll see why. These beauties are super active within the community and have proved to be irreplacable. Not only do they help hundreds of site owners with their resources, but they've personally helped a good chunk of our community with specific requests and problems. This is the Underground Hall of Fame right here!
Requirements: At least 100 total items in their File. 50 must be from posting resources of some kind from ALL categories, as well as another 50 items from community involvement.
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KateMasen - July 9, 2010 04:51 AM (GMT)
I agree with the points system, but make it more than 100 points to advance; people will make just 100 posts! And then we will not have the resources, people will just continue to post to reach. I voted other and here is my explination for how I think the points system could work.
First off, we should have a staff team made that takes over the rankings if we go with this.
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Ranks for Resourceful Members!:
Points system: 1 point per post. 25 per graphic 25 per resource 10 per board submitted to the directory.
*insert name here* To reach this rank, you must have a minimum of 100 points and those 100 MUST be a combonation of both posts and at LEAST 1 (one) graphic, resource, or 1 (one) boards submitted.
*insert name here* To reach this rank, you have been a bit more active! You now have at least 500 points, and have posted at least 5 (five) graphics, resources, or at least 2 (two) boards, or a combonation of those. (i.e. 6 graphics or resources and 1 boards.)
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and go on from there. What do you think? Would that work? That is a way to promote both posting and graphics.
And then, to promote users, we have this system:
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Ranks for RPGU Lovers! These ranks are for regular, returning members, and it goes a little something like this: 1 point per post 25 points per proof of use of a resource
*insert name here* These lovers are pretty cool. They come casually, and have used at least 2 (two) resources from our awesome artists. They have gotten 100 points.
*insert name here* These lovers are new levels of cool! They come more often, and have used at least 5 (five) of our resources. They now have 300 points.
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and go on from there. this promotes traffic to the site, and returning members.
What do you guys think? I know it needs tweaked a bit (it is currently 1:00 AM where I am haha.) Do you think it is doable if we get a team together for it?
Ectw101 - July 10, 2010 02:05 PM (GMT)
Yes, I agree, the number to promote should be in the hundreds. I also agree with the staff team and I'd consider rejoining the staff to help get this started. (Once I get home from my vacation). I, however, don't think members should get points for submitting their boards...
I, personally, don't like dictating what the members have to do to be promoted besides getting some points. I mean, the assumption is that to get so many points, you would need to submit resources and stuff. That way you could readjust the values as needed and combine the two ideas, which I think is really cool.
I think that the last thing we should deal with, though, are the specific values, the most important aspect now is the system.
ariesness - July 10, 2010 02:09 PM (GMT)
In regards to Kate's post...
I like a lot of the ideas you've posted. And you'll probably see some of them implemented. =]
But, and this is not to say that I'm saying no (and I'm not, I'm just trying to add some food for thought), I don't know how viable having multiple ranking systems would be. Don't get me wrong. I love the concept of being able to work on what you want and getting ranked for everything. But there's a definite problem in acknowledging the different ranks people earn when there's more than one ranking system. If we can come up with a way to make it work, that's great. But I don't want us to be accused of copying RPGD, and risk creating bad feelings between the sites.
KateMasen - July 13, 2010 09:43 PM (GMT)
Oh, I totally understand that. I had never been on RPGD so I had no idea. And glad I could help a bit :D